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RE: the tools we use

Milena

Sep 23, 2003 19:27 PDT


Hello everyone,

On the topic of internet privacy etc, I noticed that I was able to register
my email address for this list *without* providing any additional
registration. That is, once I provided my email address, the site reported
that my registration to freecooperation was complete, then it said to
"continue" registering steps 1-3. I just decided not to do that. Does that
mean I won't be able to participate in discussions at some point, or does it
means that I was just somehow got around having to provide any additional
information about my self?

I'm sorry I'm unable to suggest any alternatives for discussion group
hosting but if I can think of anything I'll be sure to share!

Cheers,
Milena


 -----Original Message-----
From: Warren Sack [mailto:wsa-*at*ucsc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:48 PM
To: collabo-*at*topica.com
Subject: Re: [freecooperation] the tools we use


for a discussion focused on collaboration, the choice of the tool or
environment for collaboration is a difficult decision that can be
endlessly deferred -- and indeed made into an entire project unto
itself. i have seen years of work attempting to find and/or build the
"perfect" environment. instead it is probably easier -- and perhaps a
more direct route -- to simply choose an environment and then, over the
course of the discussion, keep tab of what we like and don't like about
the environment. such a list of (dis)likes might be an interesting and
useful outcome of our discussion. i too found the marketing survey
posed by topia.com distasteful, but i think i can live with it for the
duration of our discussion. it's a bit difficult to move a discussion
once initiated. but, then again, if we have folks participating with
years of experience facilitating and providing the technical
infrastructure for online discussions -- like wolfgang at the thing --
then perhaps we should make a move now to some place or some thing one
of us has worked on as a discussion environment?

-warren


- G a r r e t t - wrote:

 
 Wolfgang Staehle wrote:

Sorry for being late, but I have an aversion to things like topica.com.
and was wavering whether I want to participate at all.

Why couldn't we use something like minordomo?
At least I know that Sebastian (http://minordomo.org) won't sell my
email, zipcode and age or use the >aggregated data for demographic
and marketing research.

The tools we use are important and they say a lot about who we are.
And I don't like that footer below...



 Tom Leonhardt wrote:

I'm quite excited by this conference as it focuses on issues central
to my own. I'd like to echo >Wolfgang's comment about topica.com (the
signup really irritated me) and hope that we can work >together to
express our ideals in both form and content.



going back to Wolfgang Staehle and Tom Leonhardt's comments a while
back on the use of topica and how the tools we use are important, I
think this was underlined yesterday by Warren Sack's post and his link
to some of his research work, his "conversation map software (see
www.sims.berkeley.edu/~sack/cm)".

obviously this is going to be a space to think towards forms and tools
such as this but surely for the moment we could go with a more
open-ended, accessible one such as the suggested minordomo?

a+
gar

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