I third this. Topica generates junkmail, I think, from the last time I was
on one of their lists. I hope I'm wrong...
More generally, the open source issue is important to me but I am a
sell-out. Much of my work uses Flash, and I just don't see SVG as a viable
alternative (there are no decent authoring tools). I'm also not aware of any
technology that allows you to do cross-platform cross-browser programming as
well as Flash and with as much penetration. I don't even know an open
source alternative to Dreamweaver, although I am sure there are some-- HTML
editing is not that hard a task. I'd like to use open source, but how,
given that I want to do web art? (DHTML is not the answer and it isn't
open source anyway...)
Millie
----- Original Message -----
From: "- G a r r e t t -" <garrett-*at*eudoramail.com>;
To: <collabo-*at*topica.com>;
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:38 PM
Subject: [freecooperation] the tools we use
| | | | Wolfgang Staehle wrote:
Sorry for being late, but I have an aversion to things like topica.com.
and was wavering whether I want to participate at all.
Why couldn't we use something like minordomo?
At least I know that Sebastian (http://minordomo.org) won't sell my
email, zipcode and age or use the >aggregated data for demographic
and marketing research.
The tools we use are important and they say a lot about who we are.
And I don't like that footer below...
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| | Tom Leonhardt wrote:
I'm quite excited by this conference as it focuses on issues central
to my own. I'd like to echo >Wolfgang's comment about topica.com
(the signup really irritated me) and hope that we can work >together
to express our ideals in both form and content.
|
going back to Wolfgang Staehle and Tom Leonhardt's comments a while
back on the use of topica and how the tools we use are important, I
think this was underlined yesterday by Warren Sack's post and his
link to some of his research work, his "conversation map software
(see www.sims.berkeley.edu/~sack/cm)".
obviously this is going to be a space to think towards forms and
tools such as this but surely for the moment we could go with a more
open-ended, accessible one such as the suggested minordomo?
a+
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